{"id":868,"date":"2008-08-24T02:15:47","date_gmt":"2008-08-24T06:15:47","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.thedisciplinedinvestor.com\/blog\/?p=868"},"modified":"2016-09-20T03:38:23","modified_gmt":"2016-09-20T07:38:23","slug":"tdi-episode-71-the-dick-and-the-lehman","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/thedisciplinedinvestor.com\/blog\/2008\/08\/24\/tdi-episode-71-the-dick-and-the-lehman\/","title":{"rendered":"TDI Episode 71: The Dick and The Lehman"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Guest: <a title=\"Mish Shedlock\" href=\"http:\/\/www.sitkapacific.com\/index.html\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>Mish Shedlock<\/strong><\/a> and Andrew discuss Fannie, Freddie and the market direction. We take apart Ladenburg Thalmann&#8217;s banking analyst <strong>Dick<\/strong> Bove and look at Cramer&#8217;s recent discussion about the Fed, SEC and the markets.<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft alignnone size-medium wp-image-752\" style=\"margin: 10px; float: left;\" title=\"mish2\" src=\"https:\/\/thedisciplinedinvestor.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/08\/mish2.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"111\" height=\"130\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Mike Shedlock \/ Mish is a registered investment advisor representative for <strong><a title=\"SitkaPacific Capital Management\" href=\"http:\/\/www.sitkapacific.com\/\" target=\"_blank\">SitkaPacific Capital Management<\/a><\/strong>. As Mish tell us, Sitka Pacific is an asset management firm whose goal is strong performance and low volatility, regardless of market direction.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong><span style=\"color: #888888;\"><a href=\"#podcast\" target=\"_self\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">LISTEN TO PODCAST NOW<\/span><\/a><span style=\"color: #000000;\"> | LISTEN @ <a title=\"Zune Subscribe\" onclick=\"javascript:urchinTracker ('\/outbound\/article\/subscribe');\" href=\"zune:\/\/subscribe\/?The%20Disciplined%20Investor=http:\/\/feeds.thedisciplinedinvestor.com\/tdicasts\" target=\"_blank\">ZUNE<\/a> &#8211; @ <a title=\"iTunes Subscribe\" onclick=\"javascript:urchinTracker ('\/outbound\/article\/phobos.apple.com');\" href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/the-disciplined-investor\/id217999782\" target=\"_blank\">iTUNES<\/a><\/span><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>We are both amazed that Bove expects Lehman Brothers (LEH) to &#8220;shrink about $100 billion off of its assets&#8221; and that the investment bank is &#8220;stable enough to go through a tough environment.&#8221; Bove, speaking at the Reuters 2008 Investment Outlook Summit in New York on Wednesday, also said that it will be at least &#8220;three to four years&#8221; before Lehman is once again a &#8220;vibrant, growing company.&#8221;<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright alignnone size-medium wp-image-872\" style=\"float: right;\" title=\"bove\" src=\"https:\/\/thedisciplinedinvestor.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/08\/bove-1.jpg\" alt=\"DICK Bove\" width=\"99\" height=\"70\" \/><\/p>\n<p>What is really confusing is that Bove has recently upgraded Lehman. It is important to remember that a few months ago, he had suggested that we should all start to once again buy financial stocks as they have hit bottom. EXCELLENT TIMING, MR. BOVE &#8211; What should we do now?<\/p>\n<p>Andrew  also looks at the Cramer commentary from this week and how Cramer is suggesting that the market is rigged. If this is the case, how does buy-and-hold make any sense???<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><a title=\"iTunes Subscribe\" href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/the-disciplined-investor\/id217999782\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"275\" height=\"60\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-257\" title=\"iTunes Subscribe\" src=\"https:\/\/thedisciplinedinvestor.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/08\/itunes_subscribe.jpg\" alt=\"\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\">&#8212;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Stocks Discussed:<\/strong> General Motors (GM) Ford (F) Lehman Brothers (LEH) Citigroup (C) Wachovia (WB) Washiongton Mutual (WM) Capital One Financial (COF) MasterCard (MA) Potash (POT) Mosiac (MOS) Freddie Mac (FRE) Fannie Mae (FNM)<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\">&#8212;<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.thedisciplinedinvestor.com\/blog\/mailbox\/tdi-investment-fund\/\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-874\" title=\"tdimg_card\" src=\"https:\/\/thedisciplinedinvestor.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/08\/tdimg_card-1.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"259\" height=\"197\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<h3 style=\"text-align: center;\"><a title=\"TDI Managed Growth Strategy\" href=\"http:\/\/www.thedisciplinedinvestor.com\/blog\/mailbox\/tdi-investment-fund\/\" target=\"_self\">CLICK HERE<\/a> for a Virtual Tour of The Disciplined Investor Managed Growth Strategy<\/h3>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\">&#8212;<\/p>\n<p><a id=\"podcast\" name=\"podcast\"><\/a><\/p>\n<div class=\"powerpress_player\" id=\"powerpress_player_4758\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.podtrac.com\/pts\/redirect.mp3\/media.blubrry.com\/tdi_podcast\/www.thedisciplinedinvestor.com\/blog\/podcasts\/tdi_episode71.mp3\" title=\"Play\" onclick=\"return powerpress_embed_html5a('4758','http:\/\/www.podtrac.com\/pts\/redirect.mp3\/media.blubrry.com\/tdi_podcast\/www.thedisciplinedinvestor.com\/blog\/podcasts\/tdi_episode71.mp3');\" target=\"_blank\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/thedisciplinedinvestor.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/powerpress\/TDI_PlayPodcast-679.png\" title=\"Play\" alt=\"Play\" style=\"border:0;\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_links_mp3\" style=\"margin-bottom: 1px !important;\">Podcast: <a href=\"http:\/\/www.podtrac.com\/pts\/redirect.mp3\/media.blubrry.com\/tdi_podcast\/www.thedisciplinedinvestor.com\/blog\/podcasts\/tdi_episode71.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_pinw\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Play in new window\" onclick=\"return powerpress_pinw('https:\/\/thedisciplinedinvestor.com\/blog\/?powerpress_pinw=868-podcast');\" rel=\"nofollow\">Play in new window<\/a> | <a href=\"http:\/\/www.podtrac.com\/pts\/redirect.mp3\/media.blubrry.com\/tdi_podcast\/www.thedisciplinedinvestor.com\/blog\/podcasts\/tdi_episode71.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_d\" title=\"Download\" rel=\"nofollow\" download=\"tdi_episode71.mp3\">Download<\/a> (26.2MB)<\/p><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_subscribe_links\">Subscribe: <a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/5vtvEVDPUi4221imwhXyXt\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_spotify\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on Spotify\" rel=\"nofollow\">Spotify<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/tunein.com\/podcasts\/Markets-and-Investing\/The-Disciplined-Investor-p414586\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_tunein\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on TuneIn\" rel=\"nofollow\">TuneIn<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/thedisciplinedinvestor.com\/blog\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_rss\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe via RSS\" rel=\"nofollow\">RSS<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/thedisciplinedinvestor.com\/blog\/subscribe-to-podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_more\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"More\" rel=\"nofollow\">More<\/a><\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Guest: Mish Shedlock and Andrew discuss Fannie, Freddie and the market direction. We take apart Ladenburg Thalmann&#8217;s banking analyst Dick Bove and look at Cramer&#8217;s recent discussion about the Fed, SEC and the markets. Mike Shedlock \/ Mish is a registered investment advisor representative for SitkaPacific Capital Management. 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