{"id":54598,"date":"2021-02-21T11:00:15","date_gmt":"2021-02-21T16:00:15","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/thedisciplinedinvestor.com\/blog\/?p=54598"},"modified":"2021-02-21T11:00:15","modified_gmt":"2021-02-21T16:00:15","slug":"tdi-podcast-block-stirs-up-muddy-waters-702","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/thedisciplinedinvestor.com\/blog\/2021\/02\/21\/tdi-podcast-block-stirs-up-muddy-waters-702\/","title":{"rendered":"TDI Podcast: Block Stirs Up Muddy Waters (#702)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Muddy Waters Research founder Carson Block\u00a0 is our guest. We dive into the history of some of the greatest frauds in years and how he helped to uncover many of these. <a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/the-disciplined-investor\/id217999782\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-257 alignright\" title=\"iTunes Subscribe\" src=\"https:\/\/thedisciplinedinvestor.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/itunes_subscribe3.png\" alt=\"Itunes\" width=\"275\" height=\"60\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>China is in the spotlight Carson explains the fascinating rise and fall of Orient Paper and Sino-Forest.<\/p>\n<p>But the real deal we discuss is how passive investing may be creating a ticking time bomb. The math of how passive investing (ETFs) lever markets and price.<\/p>\n<p>We also talk about the benefit of short-selling and how there is still a place for<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.muddywatersresearch.com\/\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\" wp-image-54599 alignleft\" src=\"https:\/\/thedisciplinedinvestor.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/02\/Carson-Block.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"240\" height=\"160\" srcset=\"https:\/\/thedisciplinedinvestor.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/02\/Carson-Block.jpg 400w, https:\/\/thedisciplinedinvestor.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/02\/Carson-Block-300x200.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 240px) 100vw, 240px\" \/><\/a>Carson Block is the Chief Investment Officer of <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.muddywatersresearch.com\/\">Muddy Waters Capital<\/a><\/strong> LLC, an activist investment firm. Muddy Waters conducts extensive due diligence based investment research on companies around the globe. Mr. Block is also the founder of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.zer0es.tv\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Zer0es TV<\/a> (www.zer0es.tv), an online channel dedicated to short selling related video content. Bloomberg Markets Magazine named Mr. Block as one of the \u201c50 Most Influential in Global Finance\u201d in 2011. The following year, Muddy Waters received the prestigious Boldness in Business Award from the Financial Times. In September 2015, Mr. Block was featured in the book, <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">The Most Dangerous Trade: How Short Sellers Uncover Fraud, Keep Markets Honest, and Make and Lose Billions, by former Bloomberg writer Richard Teitelbaum<\/span>. He is also featured in the 2018 documentary <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">The China Hustle<\/span>.<\/p>\n<p>Muddy Waters gained fame in 2011 following the publication of its research on Sino-Forest Corp., which exposed the company as a massive fraud. Activist campaigns conducted by Muddy Waters have led to numerous financial restatements by companies, eight de-listings, over $100 million in restitution paid to investors, and over $50 million paid to regulators.<\/p>\n<p>Mr. Block appears frequently as a commentator on Bloomberg Television, CNBC and the BBC. He has written op-eds in the Wall Street Journal, Financial Times, and New York Times on various topics related to improving corporate governance and market transparency. Prior to forming Muddy Waters, Mr. Block was an entrepreneur in China and worked as a lawyer in the Shanghai office of the U.S. law firm Jones Day. In 2007, he co-authored <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">Doing Business in China for Dummies<\/span>, a primer on doing business in China. He holds a B.S. in business from the University of Southern California and a J.D. from the Chicago-Kent College of Law, where he has also served as an adjunct professor.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><a class=\"twitter-follow-button\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/muddywatersre\" data-size=\"large\" data-show-count=\"false\">Follow @muddywatersre<\/a><br \/>\n<script src=\"\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" async=\"\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><a class=\"twitter-follow-button\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/andrewhorowitz\" data-size=\"large\" data-show-count=\"false\">Follow @andrewhorowitz<\/a><br \/>\n<script src=\"\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" async=\"\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\">Financial Advisors &#8211; Looking to switch custodians? Check out Interactive Brokers!<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Learn More at <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ibkr.com\/ria\">http:\/\/www.ibkr.com\/ria<\/a><\/strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.interactivebrokers.com\/mkt\/?src=tdi1&amp;url=%2Fen%2Findex.php%3Ff%3D1338\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-54327\" src=\"https:\/\/thedisciplinedinvestor.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/12\/InteractiveBrokers_logo1-e1607262448146.jpg\" alt=\"Interactive Brokers - Why IB?\" width=\"393\" height=\"87\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p>OurCrowd\u2019s investment professionals leverage their extensive network to review some of the most promising private companies and startups in the world.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-54123\" src=\"https:\/\/thedisciplinedinvestor.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/09\/OurCrowd-Rectangle.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"366\" height=\"53\" srcset=\"https:\/\/thedisciplinedinvestor.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/09\/OurCrowd-Rectangle.png 800w, https:\/\/thedisciplinedinvestor.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/09\/OurCrowd-Rectangle-300x44.png 300w, https:\/\/thedisciplinedinvestor.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/09\/OurCrowd-Rectangle-610x88.png 610w, https:\/\/thedisciplinedinvestor.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/09\/OurCrowd-Rectangle-768x111.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 366px) 100vw, 366px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Today, you can join OurCrowd\u2019s investment in Future Family \u2014 Future Family is a category-leading platform combining fintech and digital health to provide affordable, personalized fertility care.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Check it out at <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ourcrowd.com\/tdi\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">http:\/\/www.ourcrowd.com\/tdi<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Looking for style diversification?<\/strong> More information on the <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/thedisciplinedinvestor.com\/blog\/tdi-strategy\/\">TDI Managed Growth Strategy<\/a> <\/strong>&#8211; https:\/\/thedisciplinedinvestor.com\/blog\/tdi-strategy\/<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/envestology.com\/\">eNVESTOLOGY<\/a> Info<\/strong> &#8211; https:\/\/envestology.com\/<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Friday Pre-Market Run-Down Webinar <a href=\"https:\/\/www.triggercharts.com\/webinar-pre-market-rundown-fridays\/\">Registration <\/a><\/strong>&#8211; https:\/\/www.triggercharts.com\/webinar-pre-market-rundown-fridays\/<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\">Stocks mentioned in this episode: (OSTK), (GSX), (YY), (NNOX)<\/p>\n<div class=\"powerpress_player\" id=\"powerpress_player_390\"><a href=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/tdi_podcast\/thedisciplinedinvestor.com\/blog\/podcasts\/tdi_episode702.mp3\" title=\"Play\" onclick=\"return powerpress_embed_html5a('390','https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/tdi_podcast\/thedisciplinedinvestor.com\/blog\/podcasts\/tdi_episode702.mp3');\" target=\"_blank\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/thedisciplinedinvestor.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/powerpress\/TDI_PlayPodcast-679.png\" title=\"Play\" alt=\"Play\" style=\"border:0;\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_links_mp3\" style=\"margin-bottom: 1px !important;\">Podcast: <a href=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/tdi_podcast\/thedisciplinedinvestor.com\/blog\/podcasts\/tdi_episode702.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_pinw\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Play in new window\" onclick=\"return powerpress_pinw('https:\/\/thedisciplinedinvestor.com\/blog\/?powerpress_pinw=54598-podcast');\" rel=\"nofollow\">Play in new window<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/tdi_podcast\/thedisciplinedinvestor.com\/blog\/podcasts\/tdi_episode702.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_d\" title=\"Download\" rel=\"nofollow\" download=\"tdi_episode702.mp3\">Download<\/a> (Duration: 1:06:52 &#8212; 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We dive into the history of some of the greatest frauds in years and how he helped to uncover many of these. China is in the spotlight Carson explains the fascinating rise and fall of Orient Paper and Sino-Forest. But the real deal we discuss is [&hellip;]<\/p>\n<div class=\"powerpress_player\" id=\"powerpress_player_391\"><a href=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/tdi_podcast\/thedisciplinedinvestor.com\/blog\/podcasts\/tdi_episode702.mp3\" title=\"Play\" onclick=\"return powerpress_embed_html5a('391','https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/tdi_podcast\/thedisciplinedinvestor.com\/blog\/podcasts\/tdi_episode702.mp3');\" target=\"_blank\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/thedisciplinedinvestor.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/powerpress\/TDI_PlayPodcast-679.png\" title=\"Play\" alt=\"Play\" style=\"border:0;\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_links_mp3\" style=\"margin-bottom: 1px !important;\">Podcast: <a href=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/tdi_podcast\/thedisciplinedinvestor.com\/blog\/podcasts\/tdi_episode702.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_pinw\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Play in new window\" onclick=\"return powerpress_pinw('https:\/\/thedisciplinedinvestor.com\/blog\/?powerpress_pinw=54598-podcast');\" rel=\"nofollow\">Play in new window<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/tdi_podcast\/thedisciplinedinvestor.com\/blog\/podcasts\/tdi_episode702.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_d\" title=\"Download\" rel=\"nofollow\" download=\"tdi_episode702.mp3\">Download<\/a> (Duration: 1:06:52 &#8212; 61.4MB)<\/p><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_subscribe_links\">Subscribe: <a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/5vtvEVDPUi4221imwhXyXt\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_spotify\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on Spotify\" rel=\"nofollow\">Spotify<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/tunein.com\/podcasts\/Markets-and-Investing\/The-Disciplined-Investor-p414586\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_tunein\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on TuneIn\" rel=\"nofollow\">TuneIn<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/thedisciplinedinvestor.com\/blog\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_rss\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe via RSS\" rel=\"nofollow\">RSS<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/thedisciplinedinvestor.com\/blog\/subscribe-to-podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_more\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"More\" rel=\"nofollow\">More<\/a><\/p>","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":54615,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"_et_pb_use_builder":"","_et_pb_old_content":"","_et_gb_content_width":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[9,296],"tags":[482,297],"class_list":["post-54598","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-podcasts","category-shownotes","tag-podcasts","tag-show-notes","et-has-post-format-content","et_post_format-et-post-format-standard"],"acf":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/thedisciplinedinvestor.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/54598","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/thedisciplinedinvestor.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/thedisciplinedinvestor.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/thedisciplinedinvestor.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/thedisciplinedinvestor.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=54598"}],"version-history":[{"count":6,"href":"https:\/\/thedisciplinedinvestor.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/54598\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":54618,"href":"https:\/\/thedisciplinedinvestor.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/54598\/revisions\/54618"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/thedisciplinedinvestor.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/54615"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/thedisciplinedinvestor.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=54598"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/thedisciplinedinvestor.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=54598"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/thedisciplinedinvestor.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=54598"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}